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Numbers 11-14, 20-24, 27 Part 2 • Dr. David Thomson • May 4-10 • Come, Follow Me

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Hank Smith & John Bytheway

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🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Dr. David Thomson returns to unpack the twelve spies, the science-faith relationship, and what Balaam’s donkey teaches us about the people who see what we can’t. YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/3Y8zqekYn5I FREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKS New Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBook Old Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBook Book of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBook WEEKLY NEWSLETTER https://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://w...

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0:00.0

Welcome back to part two with Dr. David Thompson, numbers 11 to 27. That brings us to numbers 13 and 14,

0:09.6

and Hank, you talked about giants and grasshoppers earlier. The Israelites, they're near Canaan.

0:15.8

They're near the promised land. God tells Moses to send scouts, spies in to scout out the land. They get one from

0:25.3

every tribe, 12 of them in total. I'm imagining these are trusted people. Their judgment is going to be

0:32.8

well valued. This wasn't the rabble. These were the leaders. Go in and scout out the land. Versus 13 through 24, maybe we'll just paraphrase right now. They go in, they spy out the land and they bring back their report. They bring along some pomegranates and figs because the land is awesome. There is all kinds of good stuff in there.

0:55.1

It is flowing with milk and honey.

0:57.0

It's wonderful.

0:59.1

Ten of those 12 who went in there are afraid.

1:03.7

They said, the people be strong that dwell in the land.

1:07.1

The cities are walled.

1:09.1

Worst of all, and like you said earlier, Hank, there's giants there.

1:13.4

The children of Anic, they're huge, and they're warriors. In the NLT, next to them, we felt like grasshoppers.

1:22.8

And they convince most of the people that taking the land would be impossible. It's great, but we're

1:29.4

grasshoppers. Those are giants. We can't do it. No way. I don't think there's any way a grasshopper

1:37.3

could beat a giant. It just could be annoying, but. Yeah, I think there's a message there.

1:47.0

Or Moses says, this is an odd metaphor, but I think I get it.

1:49.9

The Lord, he knows what's in that land.

1:56.0

Why did he send him in there when he knew they were going to come back with a report that this is going to be near impossible?

1:57.6

There's no way this is going to happen.

1:59.0

Why did the Lord do that?

2:01.3

As a scientist, one of the things I'd like to chat about is, does Heavenly Father want us to have blind faith? Let's come back to that in

2:07.9

just a second as we see what happens as this plays out amongst the children of Israel. Two of the

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