Nuking the Overton Window on Gaza | Interview: Einat Wilf

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Politics, News

4.4 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Einat Wilf, a former member of Israel’s Labor Party and co-author of The War of Return, joins Adaam James Levin-Areddy once again to discuss President Donald Trump’s supposed plan to encourage Palestinians to voluntarily self-deport from the Gaza Strip—and what it means for the future of the conflict. The Agenda: —Consequences for aggressors —Where does the money go? —No one knows Gaza’s future —What is Gaza? —The drip, drip, drip of hostages Show Notes: —Friday’s Dispatch Podcast Roundtable mentioning the Trump-Netanyahu meeting —Dr. Wilf on The Remnant —Dr. Wilf and Adaam discuss the history of UNRWA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.3	Welcome to the dispatch podcast. This is Adam. Today we are going to talk with A Nut Wealth about the, I don't know how many air quotes I need to put around the word plan, but the Trump-Gaza plan and what it means, how it could change the conversation in the Middle East.
0:48.8	A-Nat has been on the pod multiple times. She is a former member of the Israeli Knesset, the Israeli parliament,
0:57.5	and the co-author of The War of Return.
1:00.7	The World of Return.
1:16.2	The Thank you for joining.
1:17.3	Sure.
1:18.0	It's pleasure.
1:18.9	Um,
1:19.2	Inat,
1:22.3	can you give us a quick rundown on,
1:24.5	before we go into analysis, on what Trump actually said last week
1:26.8	and how this is being heard in
1:30.3	Israel? He keeps saying one or two clarifications, but broadly speaking, the message is Gaza is
1:39.6	uninhabitable. And before anything can be said about reconstruction and building the place,
1:48.1	the population has to leave or to be allowed to leave. There is some debate about people,
1:55.0	whether he said they should be forced to leave or just allowed to leave voluntarily. And then,
2:00.2	of course, he discusses about Americans owning it, but not there won't be
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