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Ologies with Alie Ward

Nudibranchology (GLAMOROUS SEA SLUGS) with Jessica Goodheart and Terry Gosliner

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Society & Culture, Science, Comedy

4.925.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2026

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Discovery. Drama. Diversity. Design inspo. Let’s squirm into the sea grass and the tidal crevices with California Academy of Sciences legend Dr. Terry Gosliner and the American Museum of Natural History’s Dr. Jessica Goodheart to discover bunny horns, finger backs, stolen weaponry, “buttflowers,” doomed first dates, high fashion, tiny eyes, gender fluidity, “Finding Nemo” cameos, the boardgame you need, and how your phone can warm a scientists heart just by slipping on a windbreaker and looking for beautiful things.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, hey, it's the one open table at the cafe that has croissant cramps on it, but that's fine.

0:06.2

Allie Ward, this is Ologies. These are Nudabranks. We're talking sluggy beauties that you didn't know you need to love,

0:12.2

the designs, the drama, the discoveries. Nudabrinks. What are they? Their soft-bodied mollusks

0:18.2

of the sea, they live in the tropics to the far, snowy corners of

0:22.7

Antarctica, from the shallows to the depths. We're going to hear all about them. There's so many

0:27.7

species to love. So many that we called upon two members of the same species, both humans,

0:34.2

nudibranchologists, who live on opposite sides of the continent, but love nudibranx

0:39.0

equally. One is the senior curator of California Academy of Sciences Invertebrate Zoology

0:44.6

and Geology Department in San Francisco. He has been there since 1982. He is a legend among

0:51.1

people who wear wetsuits for a living. We're going to talk all about it. Our second

0:55.7

expert, I know we almost never have more than one expert, but there was just too much to talk

1:00.1

about, is an assistant curator at the American Museum of Natural History and studies the

1:04.6

biodiversity and evolution of marine invertebrates, including neuterangs. Yes, nudibranchology, it's a word. It means nude or

1:14.7

naked gills or brankia slugs with outside lungs, and they have so much more going for them.

1:21.8

We're going to get into it. But first, a quick thank you to all the listeners supporting us

1:25.0

via patreon.com slash ologies, where you can submit questions

1:27.8

before we record, and you can join that for $1 a month. Thank you to everyone who's there.

1:34.1

We also have Ologies merch, if you want to put us on your bodies at ologiesmerch.com.

1:38.7

And for $0, you can help us out so much by just leaving a review.

1:42.8

I do read them all and they keep me going

1:44.8

on days when I open the news and I want to die under the porch like an old dog. So let's stick

1:51.4

together. But thank you, Riley Rainbow, who wrote, I'm officially the coolest at dinner parties.

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