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Moral Maze

Nuclear Weapons

Moral Maze

BBC

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.5609 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2016

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

MP's have voted overwhelmingly to renew our Trident nuclear weapons system and the first job of any new prime minister is to write the "letters of last resort" which contain prime ministers' instructions for what to do in the event of a nuclear attack. The handwritten notes are taken to the UK's four Vanguard-class submarines, the ships which carry the ballistic missiles the Royal Navy calls "the nation's ultimate weapon" and contain instructions of what to do in the worst-case nuclear scenario: the obliteration of the UK state. The value of nuclear weapons is in their deterrence - the promise of mutually assured destruction. Theresa May has told the Commons that she wouldn't hesitate, but she could do no other. It is rumoured previous prime ministers may not have been so certain. By their nature the letters have to make broad moral judgments rather than situationally-dependent ones. They're about morality and ethics, not tactics. In the event that deterrence fails and we are attacked, would it be moral to use our nuclear weapons against civilians in retaliation? What would you do in the event of nuclear war? Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. If you think the moral principles of collective punishment are clear when it comes to nuclear weapons what about in other stories in the news? Is it always wrong to punish the innocent in pursuit of a wider justice? Should we ban all Russian athletes from the Rio Olympics to punish the drug cheats? Is protecting American citizens against terrorist attacks a greater good than the right of Muslims to travel to the USA? The morality of retaliation and collective punishment on the Moral Maze. Witnesses are Major General Patrick Cordingley, Air Vice Marshall Nigel Baldwin, Avia Pasternak and Austen Ivereigh.

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0:00.0

You're listening to a program from BBC Radio 4.

0:03.8

Good evening. Somewhere in the deeps of the Northern Atlantic tonight, a Royal Navy submarine is cruising, ready to kill a million or more people.

0:12.1

It's part of Britain's nuclear deterrent, a threat of Armageddon, of what the jargon calls mutually assured destruction,

0:18.8

that many say has paradoxically kept the world from major conflict for more than half a century.

0:24.4

MPs have just voted to renew our Trident nuclear missiles and the submarines that carry them.

0:29.8

The new Prime Minister, Theresa May, said this week she wouldn't hesitate to use them.

0:34.7

But then the deterrent, and the billions it costs, would be pointless if she said

0:38.5

anything else. What we do not, and probably never will know, is what she's written privately

0:43.9

to the commanders of our submarines in the so-called letters of last resort. All incoming

0:49.2

prime ministers have to leave instructions in the event the UK has been obliterated, and there's

0:53.8

no one left to give orders.

0:55.8

This is the clearest, bleakest, moral decision of all.

0:59.7

The strategic justification for our nuclear weapons, deterrence, would by definition have failed.

1:05.9

Should they press the button?

1:07.3

Why? Revenge? Retribution?

1:10.1

Collective punishment. We're constantly arguing about the moral

1:13.0

justification for that. Wiping out whole cities in a nuclear war is rather different order of

1:18.5

magnitude to banning clean athletes from the Olympics because teammates' systematic drug use,

1:23.9

but the vexed principle is the same. Theresa May, actually she says she would, but in that last resort, should she and why?

1:32.6

That's our moral maze tonight.

1:34.3

Melanie Phillips, our panellists here, Melanie Phillips, social commentator on the Times,

1:38.8

the former Conservative Defense Secretary, Michael Portillo, the chief executive of the RSA,

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