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NSA Slammed by Federal Civil Liberties Overseers

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🗓️ 24 January 2014

⏱️ 12 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Friday, January 24, 2014. I'm Caleb Brown. The Federal Privacy

0:11.6

and Civil Liberties Oversight Board has analyzed many of the

0:14.8

revelations about the National Security Agency and found NSA programs wanting.

0:20.3

Julian Sanchez, a research fellow at the Cato Institute, breaks down the report.

0:26.7

The report released this week by the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, first,

0:32.4

confirms, and indeed with respect to the specific

0:35.4

215 program the NSA's telephony metadata program that it was really focused

0:40.4

on goes even further than the president's own hand-picked review group.

0:44.2

So we don't have two expert bodies that have analyzed this program, this telephony metadata program, with access to classified records and essentially

0:55.2

concluded that it is not providing unique value and that bulk collection of records by the

1:00.0

government should end.

1:01.7

The President's review group had suggested that perhaps if it was

1:06.2

thought necessary there could still be some kind of aggregation of records

1:10.5

by some kind of third party. That's the option the president has

1:14.2

suggested they may go with. That has plenty of problems of its own. So if you've got

1:20.6

bulk collection still happening but it's Booz Allen holding onto the records,

1:25.0

it's not clear why that's much better from a privacy perspective, even though it would be better in the sense that you would still now have judicial orders for individual searches of that

1:34.7

data for each individual phone number. But this review group report goes

1:40.5

further and really says it's time for this program to end. They talk about first

1:45.8

why it's probably not lawful, why the courts that have approved this are wrong and also looks in some detail I think really the most

1:56.0

detail we have yet at some of the claims made by the intelligence community as to the

2:00.8

efficacy of this program.

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