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NSA Reform Clears Key Hurdle

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🗓️ 8 May 2014

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Reining in certain NSA abuses is now closer to reality.

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, May 8, 2014. I'm Caleb Brown.

0:09.2

National Security Agency Reform Legislation is moving through Congress, having moved quickly through

0:14.9

two House committees. Julian Sanchez, a research fellow at the Cato Institute, says it is a positive

0:20.1

first step toward reigning in surveillance abuses.

0:25.0

Real substantial reform of the national security agencies' surveillance authorities

0:32.0

just got much closer to reality as the House Intelligence

0:37.8

Committee unanimously passed out the USA Freedom Act, which the day before had been voted out of the Judiciary Committee also unanimously.

0:49.0

This is legislation proposed by Representative James Sensenbrenner and Senator Patrick Leahy and actually first announced

0:57.0

at an NSA conference we held here at the Cato Institute last year by Representative Sensen Brenner.

1:03.6

The version approved by the Judiciary Committee is not quite the robust and comprehensive

1:09.6

and far-reaching reform of surveillance authorities that the initial version was.

1:15.2

Compromises had to be made to get the Intelligence Committees and the administration to sign on.

1:21.6

But given the alternatives, given an alternative bill that the Intelligence Committee

1:27.0

had proposed that would in many ways have actually expanded an essay authority to monitor our phone and internet records. This is really a kind of

1:39.6

of substantive limitation that six months ago I think seemed completely unrealistic.

1:45.3

It does not, as the original version did, deal with the full range of different NSA authorities.

1:52.1

The original version, for example, included some limitations on what's called Section 702

1:59.2

surveillance.

2:00.4

This is the authority under the FISA amendments act of 2008 to target foreigners outside the United States

2:08.2

including their communications with Americans under what the founders would have regarded as general warrants with

2:14.6

individual NSA analysts deciding which actual email accounts and phone

2:18.8

numbers to target. The original version would have limited what are called

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