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NS#125: Security and the State

The New Statesman | UK politics and culture

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🗓️ 27 November 2015

⏱️ 48 minutes

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This week Jason Cowley interviews the philosopher John Gray about the future of the state. We also discuss the spending review, the tampon tax, and finish up with Stephen Bush's joke of the week. (Helen Lewis, Anoosh Chakelian, Stephen Bush, Barbara Speed, Jason Cowley, John Gray)

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0:00.0

This is a passenger announcement. You can now book your train on Uber and get 10% back in credits to spend on Uber eats.

0:11.0

So you can order your own fries instead of eating everyone else's.

0:15.0

Trains, now on Uber. T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app.

0:20.0

Do you hear that?

0:27.0

It might sound like nothing to you, but it's actually the sound of nuclear, wind and solar energy.

0:31.0

At EDF, we're busy generating more British zero carbon

0:34.9

electricity than anyone to help keep future energy costs down for

0:38.3

everyone and help cut UK carbon emissions to nothing. Sound good to you? Find out more about our

0:44.8

zero carbon generation at edf energy.com slash helping Britain. Welcome to the New Statesman Podcast. I'm Deputy Editor Helen Lewis and this week I talk

1:05.1

to Anush Shekaly and Stephen Bush about the aftermath of the autumn statement and

1:08.6

then Anouche joins us again with Barbara Speed to talk about the Tampontax.

1:12.0

Plus for perhaps one week only, Stephen's joke of the week.

1:15.9

Then Jason Cowley talks to John Gray about our cover story on ISIS and the state. Well, we're joining you the day after the autumn statement in which George Oswell made a series of announcements,

1:31.3

pulled some rabbits out of a hat and various other political

1:33.6

cliches. I'm joined by Stephen Bush, our Stagger's editor and Anusha Cayenne, our Deputy Web editor.

1:38.8

So first, for anybody who's been under a rock, Stephen, What were the rabbits? So the kind of big

1:46.2

big rabbits were the U-turn on tax credits, well it's a partial U-turn in and he's

1:52.3

basically said that there will be no cuts to tax

1:54.7

credits because it doesn't matter because tax credits will vanish when universal credit is

2:00.0

fully implemented.

2:02.0

It's quite a good illustration that isn't it of the fact that a

2:04.5

U-turn is less embarrassing than continuing to stick to something just

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