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No.

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A federal judge appeared skeptical today of President Trump's executive order targeting the law firm Perkins-Cooey.

The firm is 104 that is sued after being targeted by presidential executive action.

More from NPR's Ryan Lucas.

U.S. District Judge Beryl spent two hours grilling a Justice Department attorney over the executive order against Perkins Cui.

Trump's order takes several punitive steps, including suspending security clearances for the firm's employees

and barring its attorney's access to government officials and buildings. Judge Howell last month

temporarily blocked enforcement of aspects of the order. At this hearing, she pressed the Justice

Department for details on the deals that other law firms have struck with the president to avoid

punishment, as well as legal basis for targeting

Perkins-Cooey for embracing diversity and inclusion in its hiring. At a separate hearing in the same

courthouse, another federal judge heard arguments from the law firm Wilmer Hale that also has sued

over a similar executive order targeting it. Ryan Lucas NPR News, Washington. President

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