Thank you. Welcome back to Nothing personal. It is our two on Thursday, August 7, 2025.

As you know, I'm in Miami.

I've been here all week.

Final day sitting in for Mr. Lebitard.

And I've been lucky enough to do shows all week with Mike Ryan.

And we are lucky enough to have him as our Thursday guest early.

You're an hour and seven minutes before Dan's show.

Thank you for coming in early today.

Oh, it's my pleasure.

Great week of shows so far.

Feedback, not really reflecting that.

What does that mean?

Man, I don't know what it is.

Well, I have a feeling I know what it is.

I think very recently, well, throughout your entire history of our show, you've been positioned as a villain. It's worked. It's kind of one note, but it works for us. That's the groove. And then when that's the expectation, people find you endearing and you're able to cut through that. But over the last few months, you've been positioned as like the Thanos of our

universe, like a mega villain. And it's been harder to cut through that. I think we've done a really

good job with the dynamic. Billy and I have been comedically synced having a go at you,

kind of layering a show beneath a show. I've really enjoyed the weakest shows. I don't think that the people... I think a lot of the feedback that we receive is not good faith feedback. I think it's a lot of people that just see your face decide they either are not going to give it a try, maybe haven't listened to our show for a while. Or they are giving it a try. And they're, listen, hate watching?

Yeah.

I'm going to take it. Oh, no doubt. No, I don't mean to say like every, every bit of bad feedback that we get is just a lie. No, there's plenty of people that hate you. And I'm grateful that they still think that you're going to turn it around for them. I was in that camp

when I was producing the Levitard show.

I hated the segment for a very long time. still think that you're going to turn it around for them. I was in that camp when I was

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