You know, for the last 26 years, my friend had trusted me and then all of a sudden nothing

that I said mattered.

It didn't, she didn't believe me.

This is Sarah Stewart Holland and this is Beth Silverce.

Thank you for joining us for Pant suit Politics.

Hello, we are so glad you're joining us for another episode of Pant suit Politics as we work

through our summer series based on our book Now What, How to Move Ward, when we're divided

about basically everything.

In our last episode, if you missed it, we talked with a group of listeners about our families

and about the conflicts that exist in our families, about the power dynamics surrounding

those conflicts, about what it means when we change our status and relationship to the

family or someone in the family tries to change that status.

Today we're going to widen the circle out and look at the people that we choose to live

with, our partners, whether they are partners in a romantic sense, in a marriage, or roommates,

who we spend a lot of our time with.

We are also going to look at our friends in other sense, our chosen families and how does

conflict arise around politics in those relationships.

Sarah, one of the stories that we share in the book centers around a big life learning

moment for me in the 2020 election.

I felt really strongly in 2020 that that year it was very important for every member of

my household to vote the way that I felt was best, which was to support Democrats because

I felt that the Trump administration supported by so many Republican legislators in what

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