And I think for me, that's been the problem.

Is that churches have lost sight of their purpose?

And we've chosen different purposes.

We've chosen, oh, we're just about friendship.

Or we're just about this or that when what you guys said

in here, you said, church is how we come together

as a group to practice our faith.

This is Sarah Stewart Holland and this is Beth Silverce.

Thank you for joining us for Pantsuit Politics.

Hello and welcome to the third installment of our summer series based around our book, Now What?

How to Move Forward When We're Divided About Basically Everything.

If you've been listening along, we have so far talked about political conflict inside families,

inside partnerships and inside friendships.

We're structuring the series much like our book where we move through these circles of connection

from the most intimate to the most expansive in an effort to provide context to the conflict and help us understand it better.

Today, we're going to talk about church.

As a reminder, what we did is send out a survey to our book launch team and said,

who has political conflict inside these relationships they would like to talk about.

This was the most responses we got.

It was about a lot.

It was about conflict inside church.

And listen, I can understand that it is tempting to turn off this conversation.

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