And so when we can take that step back and recognize that it's every child and not just my child being taken care of that.

Then actually all of our children, including my child, will be taken care of. And I think that idea can certainly carry over in other aspects of our community and our society of that it's not just about me, but if other people are taken care of I'll also be taking care of.

This is Sarah Stewart Holland and this is Beth Silverce. Thank you for joining us for Pantsy Politics.

Hello and thank you so much for joining us for our fourth and final episode in our summer series based on our book Now What? How to move forward when we're divided about basically everything.

We have spent the series looking at our families, our partnerships, our friendships, our churches, and today we're going to go out just a bit farther and think about our workplaces and our communities.

So still relationships where we are physically present and where we have less control over who is physically present with us and our relationship to them.

So if you haven't listened to the rest of the series, we highly encourage you to do that because a lot of what we're talking about builds on itself.

Just a reminder, we did not approach this as journalists. We approached it as members of the Pantsy Politics community.

So we ask our launch team for the book to share stories of personal conflict in their lives and from those stories we selected listeners to sit down with and we recorded in small groups over Zoom.

So you will not hear the full diversity of perspective represented in the United States in these conversations.

What you will hear are some very generous tellings of actual difficulties that people are working through every single day and we hope that no matter who or where you are, you'll find something in these conversations that makes you feel understood and less alone.

Today we're going to move on to working communities as we've said these episodes have built on each other.

We started with the most intimate relationships in our lives with our family, our partners, our friendships and we've we've moved further out.

We went through church and now we're going to talk about the people that we really spend a huge amount of time with every day, our co-workers and those community organizations.

We're going to talk about school boards, we're going to talk about how we interact with our communities as business leaders, you know, all the complexities and different levels of intimacy.

We have with all the people that we live with. I mean, I mean, even saying live with that's such a small word when we're trying to say someone you live in a house with, someone you live in a town with.

But those different levels of connection and breaking it down based on that is how we organize the book.

We think it's a helpful way to contextualize political conflict inside relationships. So we're going to keep zooming out.

And as we do that, the stakes don't seem to lower even though you think living in a house with someone is as high stakes as it gets.

In some ways, that's true. In other ways, when we start to talk about work, we're talking about money and livelihood and status and our ability to continue to live in the way that we want to and to feel like our labor is our recognized and valued in some senses.

When we talk about community, we're talking about tax dollars, which we can get very attached to.

We're talking about the standards and rules under which we live.

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