Now & Then with Robert Saunders: Whatever Happened to Unemployment?
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🗓️ 10 August 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, my name's David Rundsenman and this is past, present, future, the History of Ideas |
| 0:14.8 | podcast. Today, it's the first episode in a new occasional strand that we're calling now and then with Robert Saunders, |
| 0:23.3 | because every now and then we're going to be talking to Robert Saunders about an anniversary, |
| 0:28.3 | something that happened this day, this month, this year, in the past, |
| 0:32.4 | and what it means for the politics of the present and the future. |
| 0:36.1 | Today, the anniversary connects to the history, the idea of unemployment. |
| 0:42.4 | And we're going to be talking about the long history of thinking about people in work and |
| 0:47.0 | people out of work and the changing understanding of what work means. |
| 1:05.2 | Robert, this conversation is inspired, provoked by an anniversary, and the anniversary is from the summer of 1955. |
| 1:07.3 | So that's 70 years ago, this month and last month. |
| 1:29.6 | That was the lowest recorded unemployment rate in the UK in peacetime. So in war, in the first world war and the second war, and we'll talk a bit about how these things are measured. There are a few months if you look at the historic record. Well, unemployment more or less disappears. I think in October 1916, which is after conscription had come in, unemployment was recorded at being 0.4%, which is effectively zero. |
| 1:36.1 | But in peace, the lowest ever recorded unemployment rate was 1%. And that was July, August, |
| 1:43.0 | and I think September, 1955. So 70 years ago, July was the lowest |
| 1:48.3 | month in terms of the number of people registered. 215,800 people were registered as being |
| 1:55.5 | unemployed in July, 1955. At the beginning of Anthony Eden's prime ministership, he inherited, among other things, |
| 2:02.6 | an astonishingly low rate of unemployment. And just for comparison, today, the rate is 4.7%. |
| 2:09.7 | These things can be measured in so many different ways now, but it's about 1.7 million people, |
| 2:14.2 | obviously in a much larger population. The high points in the history of recorded unemployment, and we're going to talk about when it became a way of talking about politics, a number, a figure, a statistic, which goes back to the 19th century. |
| 2:29.5 | But the high points are, unsurprisingly, maybe, in the 1930s. January 1933, 23%, is I think the highest |
| 2:37.2 | recorded rate in the UK. And that was about 3 million people in a much smaller population. |
| 2:43.3 | Devastating levels of unemployment. Numerically, the highest figure of people recorded as being |
| 2:49.6 | out of work, again, unsurprisingly, maybe, |
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