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Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

November 3rd - Aviation and Environment

Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

The Independent

Places & Travel, Leisure, Society & Culture

3.6628 Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2021

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Aviation and the environment. Will we all be flying around in electric planes by 2030? And is a third runway at Heathrow airport now completely off the table?


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0:00.0

Hello, it's Wednesday the 3rd of November and thanks for joining me Simon Calder for the latest on travel and destinations from the Green List.

0:12.0

Currently aboard a train going from London Charing Cross to London Bridge just right across the Thames and what a beautiful site it is to see

0:23.5

the London skyline from the river. And today I want to talk about climate and COP 26 and what is

0:34.1

going to happen in particular not so much much to trains, but more to planes,

0:38.1

because we have seen some very strident pronouncements about aviation.

0:43.6

Just at lunchtime today, the Prime Minister was talking about getting to Net Zero Aviation,

0:50.4

and he was also talking about not expanding Heathrow Airport. Well, let me try to dissect what is going on.

1:01.3

Aviation, depending on how you want to count it, is responsible for roughly 3% of global carbon emissions worldwide.

1:09.5

And that proportion is set to grow as aviation grows or at least

1:14.5

resumes its upward trajectory which has characterised it for decades until the coronavirus pandemic.

1:22.8

In the context of now we make aviation greener though, well it's quite tricky.

1:30.3

There's talk about hydrogen powered aircraft, but they seem to be quite a long way away.

1:36.3

Electric aircraft is what lots of people, including EasyJet, are saying they want to do.

1:42.3

Now, certainly I can see scope for electric powered aircraft doing very

1:48.5

short hops on short, small planes. And there's certainly a market for that. If you look at the

1:53.6

domestic aviation within Scotland's Highlands and Islands, that's many, many short hops,

2:00.8

including one which is the shortest

2:02.1

scheduled flight in the world, just two minutes from Westray to Papa Westray in the beautiful

2:09.1

Auckland Islands. Now, what is going to be happening in terms of bigger planes? Well,

2:16.6

EasyJet says they're hoping to have aviation electric planes

2:21.8

for 2030 and shuttling 150 people between London and Amsterdam, for instance. Personally, I cannot

2:32.2

see that happening. And I have to say that what Michael O'Leary, the

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