All right, you've entered the Paracast with your host, Gene Steinberg and David Beedney.

All right, ladies and and gentlemen when you saw the list of names and the fact that these

are authors who worked on a project called america's haunted road trip you

wonder if these are ghost hunters in disguise and they're not ghost hunters they're not

the three stooges but But one of our guests, John

Cachuba, is the ringleader of this little enterprise. We also have Michael Varholla and Laura Lattick.

Now, John, since you're the ringleader or the person in charge, what led you to perform this kind of effort to develop the series?

Well, I can't be in charge of these guys. There's no question I'm not in charge.

Well, we're more of an autonomous collective.

There you go. They're on their own. But the idea of America America's haunted road trip was that we wanted to include haunted locations all across the country in the various states so that people can actually go out and, you know, check out these places themselves if they're interested. And so what I was looking for was people in various locations that I thought, you know, had good knowledge of haunted

locations and the paranormal community and had those kind of connections. And we got good writers

that had those kind of connections. You know, Laura in New Jersey with New Jersey Ghost Hunter Society.

Oh, Laura is a ghost hunter. I wanted to clarify that. He is a ghost hunter. Yes, yes. So we have one out of three is a ghost hunter.

Well, probably two out of three.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm a ghost fleer.

And Michael put in there as I'd say three out of three.

I mean, we're all, the thing with the American Haunted's road trip is that all the writers are investigators as well. I mean,

they don't write about places that they don't go to themselves personally. So from that point

of view, I would have to say that they're all ghost hunters. So we have the real ghost hunters

here. There you go. Wow. Okay. Now, let's kind of dissect your point of view going into this,

and then we can talk more about what happened about the experiences, things that might have happened to you.

John, how did you get involved in this crazy business of the paranormal?

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