November 22, 2020 — David Halperin and Morgan Knudsen

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🗓️ 22 November 2020

⏱️ 159 minutes

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Summary

Gene and Randall present religious scholar and UFO investigator David Halperin, who expands his views that the phenomenon is caused, not by visitors from other planets, but by our collective unconscious. During this interview, he reflects on the possible causes of three key cases depicted in the James Fox UFO documentary, “The Phenomenon,” and why he feels his theory more closely confirms to the facts. David sees the UFO phenomenon as a reflection of our hopes, longings, and terrors. Some of it is emerging …With messages for us? Perhaps. We just need to learn to decode them. During the latter part of the interview, we are also joined by paranormal investigator Morgan Knudsen. As host and co-creator of the sold out dinner galas, as well as in-depth walking classroom tours that give people hands on experience with the investigative field. Morgan’s team brings a professional edge to everything they touch.

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0:00.0	You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.
0:28.1	And now, here's Gene Steinberg.
0:32.5	So we're welcoming back to the Paracast, my older friend, David Halper.
0:38.7	Although there was a period like in the mid-60s where he and I disagreed about a case in
0:45.9	public, and we had some fascinating debates on it, but disagreeing never takes away one's
0:53.0	friendship.
0:57.3	And I know there were a number of years when I was not in touch with David.
0:59.9	I'm quite happy to be in touch with him again,
1:05.0	especially since he is still following this crazy subject about UFOs.
1:07.5	David, welcome back to the Paracast.
1:10.6	And just very briefly, before we get to the meat of this conversation, I'd like you to
1:12.3	tell our listeners quickly where your views stand about UFO reality. Go ahead, please.
1:20.7	Okay. I do not believe UFOs exist in the physical sense.
1:30.9	I believe they are visitors from inner space.
1:37.9	That is to say, a psychological phenomenon.
1:42.7	I do not know if we fully understand the phenomenon or its dimension.
1:50.5	What I'm convinced is that it's an enormously important subject. It's never lost its power for me,
2:05.9	even when I stopped believing in UFO's literal reality.
2:15.0	And as we've had much opportunity to see this past summer, it has great power for others.
2:21.2	And I think we have to understand that power. And behind the question of power,
2:29.9	we have to understand its meaning. Now, why do you say this past summer it demonstrated it had great power? In what sense? It seems to me that UFOs have filled the media.
2:37.3	Beginning in April, when the Defense Department confirmed those UFO videos going on through
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