November 21, 2021 — Mick West with Curt Collins

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🗓️ 21 November 2021

⏱️ 160 minutes

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Gene and special guest cohost Curt Collins introduce skeptic Mick West. Mick tells us: “I’m a writer and a debunker. I used to be a video game programmer. I focus on investigating and explaining conspiracy theories such as Chemtrails, 9/11 controlled demolition, and False Flags. I also cover more esoteric topics such as UFO’s, pseudoscience, Flat Earth, photo analysis, and quackery.” Based on his experiences interacting with conspiracy theorists, his book, Escaping the Rabbit Hole, examines the full spectrum of conspiracy theories from 9/11 to Flat Earth, and looks at how people get into them, how they get drawn down the rabbit hole, how they get out, and how you can help. Interviews with former conspiracy theorists show that there is hope even for the most deeply entrenched conspiracist. I explain the key flaws with popular conspiracy theories, and how to talk to people who believe in them.

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0:46.4	And now, here's Gene Steinberg.
0:50.5	You know from time to time on the Paracast, we'd like to look at other opinions, especially informed skeptics who have a very important point of view, and can set people who maybe go a little too far over the edge in terms of belief systems on the straight and the narrow.
1:09.1	In other words, we try we provide a balance for that.
1:12.8	So our guest co-hosts is Kurt Collins.
1:15.7	And on his suggestion and others, we've invited Mick West as not only a skeptic,
1:24.3	but someone who has interacted with conspiracy theorists and is the author of
1:31.3	escaping the rabbit hole. Mick, welcome to the paracast. And I kind of think when you try to
1:38.7	escape a rabbit hole in this day and age, where do you go anymore? Everything's a rabbit hole.
1:45.3	Indeed.
1:45.9	The idea is to get out of rabbit holes that are not healthy and perhaps get into rabbit
1:50.0	holes that are healthy.
1:51.2	There's plenty of interesting rabbit holes that you can go down without going down the deep
1:55.8	end, so to speak.
1:57.4	I'm looking at your bio and I want to go to get the beginning here.
2:06.6	You didn't wake up one morning as a child saying I'm going to be a skeptic. That's not something you do, is it?
2:08.6	It is not, no, but it is something that kind of dates back to my childhood.
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