Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. All right, I'm sorry to be a nerd that, like, quotes William Faulkner, but while listening to today's interviews, I did have that one line of his in my head. That's maybe overplayed, but still, you know, it's the one that goes, the past is never dead. It's not even past, because both books today tell stories that take

place throughout these long stretches of time. In a bit, we'll hear from Daniel Mason, who's got

this wildly ambitious novel that Kirk is called multitudinous and magical in its review.

But first, an interview from a couple years ago with Barbara Kingsolver. Before her Pulitzer

Prize-winning novel, Demon Copperhead, she wrote a book called Unsheltered,

and it uses the Civil War to look at post-Trump America.

But she tells former NPR host Lulu Garcia-Navarro that the book isn't about leaders.

It's instead about people's willingness to be led.

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Barbara Kingsolver is the best-selling author of the Poisonwood Bible and the Lacuna.

After six years, she has a new novel which tackles the divisions in America that have been around for a long time

and remain unhealed. The book is called Unsheltered and she joins us now from W.E.H.C. in

Emory, Virginia. It is my great pleasure to have you on the program. Thanks. This book is done in

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