Novelist Salman Rushdie at ‘The Eleventh Hour’
Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso
Higher Ground
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 2 November 2025
⏱️ 91 minutes
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Summary
For more than three decades, author Salman Rushdie has lived under threat. In 1989, a fatwa forced him into hiding. In 2022, he was stabbed more than a dozen times while speaking on stage—and nearly killed.
Less than two years later, he recounted the attack (and remarkable recovery) in his memoir Knife: Meditations After an Attempted Murder. Now, at seventy-eight, Rushdie returns to fiction with The Eleventh Hour, a collection of five interlinked stories that explore anger, peace, mortality, and legacy.
We begin with the inspirations behind the new quintet (5:52), Rushdie’s formative, bookish years in Bombay (14:20), and the tumultuous family life that shaped his early writing (21:20). Then, he reflects on his time at Cambridge (29:30), his stint as a copywriter (35:32), and the lightbulb moment that led to his breakout novel, Midnight’s Children (39:40).
On the back half, we discuss the fatwa (50:15) and book burning of The Satanic Verses (53:30), threats to free speech (56:36), and the slippery slope of political censorship (1:04:30). We also talk about Rushdie’s recovery and return to the page (1:14:10), his meta Curb Your Enthusiasm appearance (1:08:37), and the lasting power of literature (1:24:00).
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| 0:44.9 | This is Talk Easy. I'm Sam Forgo, so welcome to the show. Today, author Salman Rushdie. |
| 1:01.0 | He broke through in 1981 with Midnight's children, the Booker Prize-winning novel that reimagined India's independence through a blend of history, myth, and magical realism. |
| 1:12.3 | The novel established Rishdi as an exciting new voice in the world of literature. |
| 1:17.1 | He would then go on to write a series of other exceptional books, fiction and nonfiction alike, |
| 1:23.0 | including shame, Joseph Anton, Languages of Truth, and Victory City. |
| 1:28.7 | But Rushdie's story has never existed solely on the page. |
| 1:32.5 | On February 14, 1989, Ayatollah Khomeini, then the Supreme Leader of Iran, issued a fatwa |
| 1:40.2 | calling for his assassination. |
| 1:42.5 | The decree condemned his fourth novel, The satanic verses, as blasphemous, |
| 1:48.2 | forcing the renowned author into hiding for nearly a decade. Eventually, Rushdie found freedom again, |
| 1:55.2 | first in London, then in New York City, where for over 20 years he lived and worked freely, undimmed by the specter of |
| 2:03.4 | violence. That was until the morning of August 12, 2022, when a radicalized 24-year-old man attacked |
| 2:10.7 | Rochedy on stage at a literary festival in upstate New York. The assailant repeatedly stabbed |
| 2:17.2 | the author, causing him to lose sight in one eye |
| 2:20.0 | and the use of one of his hands and nearly killing him in the process. Less than two years later, |
| 2:26.5 | the celebrated author took to the page and recounted the attack and remarkable recovery |
| 2:31.4 | in a 2024 memoir entitled Knife, Meditations After an Attempted Murder. |
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