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🗓️ 16 July 2025
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0:00.0 | Before we get started, some good news. |
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0:17.6 | Subscribe to continue listening to great conversations with today's most interesting and insightful thinkers and authors. Christopher Scalia is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, an editor of two books on faith, |
0:42.5 | lessons from an American believer, and Scalia speaks, reflections on law, faith, and life, well-lived. |
0:49.9 | He's authored a new book, 13 novels, Conservatives Will Love, but probably haven't read. |
0:55.6 | That's our topic today. |
0:57.1 | Welcome, Dr. Scalia, you do have a doctorate in English from UW in Madison. |
1:05.9 | I'm not too persnickety about the title, but thanks, Mark. It's great to talk to you again. |
1:10.0 | Sure. I'll be on shows. They'll ask me, you know, persnickety about the title but thanks mark it's great to talk to you again that's sure uh i'll |
1:11.8 | be on shows of the they'll ask me you know how they should say and i say hey professor dr bowerline |
1:18.1 | if you please but okay so uh first you note in your introduction before getting into the books and |
1:26.0 | you got 13 books here we'll we'll get to the meet. |
1:29.0 | But you note that in certain conservative circles, |
1:33.1 | whenever novels come up, the conversation tends to be pretty predictable |
1:38.3 | in terms of the topics. |
1:40.1 | We've got in 1984, we've got Kara Matsov and others. |
1:46.5 | But as you say in your introduction, they aren't here in this book. |
1:55.6 | Why focus on good ones that conservatives haven't read? |
2:02.1 | I think it's good that conservatives have a reliable bookshelf already. |
2:07.6 | They have this kind of common vocabulary and set of stories and characters they can refer to. |
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