Let's jump into our defensive discussion here, Brian.

We're talking transfers.

And this is a little bit different, you know, difference of a discussion than we had from the offensive side of things.

Offensively, we talked about these guys having to be, you know, playmakers are going to have, I mean,

they're going to have to be impactful guys for the offense to be successful.

Defensively, these guys are important. They're important. They do need to make plays and all

of that, but they bring kind of a different level of experience to the defense that isn't necessarily

coming to the offense. So it's a different impact that they're looking for defensively,

that they're not necessarily looking for offensively. And so let's talk about that first. Let's talk

about the overall impact of these defensive transfers that are coming in

and really highlight the experience that they have.

We're talking about two 60-year guys and one fifth-year guy.

That's a lot of experience coming to the defense, that's for sure.

Well, a lot of proven production, Vince.

I mean, you know, if you look at the group as a whole, you've got R.J.

Obin has, what is it, 67 career tackles, right?

He's the light guy of that group, right?

Rod Hurd has 194 career tackles and Jordan Clark has 139 career tackles.

This is a trio of players that have 400 career tackles coming into the season as in

their college careers.

And it's a veteran group.

And honestly, this defensive group, in my opinion, is exactly what Notre Dame's

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