All right, Trev, let's jump into the defensive side of the football.

Thanks, everybody, for hanging out with us on the Irish Breakdown podcast presented by Fanduil.

And we just got done talking offense.

We are going to switch it to the other side of the football.

And we are going to talk defense.

And Treb, I want to make sure that we put our caveat out

there about you know how we come up with these lists and and what this looks like and all of that

we get a lot of questions between mailbags and buy sell holds and all of that about potential

all americans and we figure we're just going to put it all into one show and kind of give our

predictions and what we think about the talent level at Notre Dame.

And if they have All-American talent, if they don't have All-American talent, hint, they do.

And we're going to talk about that.

And we are just talking about potential for a first or second team all-American.

We are not going into third and fourth and honorable mentions and all of those kinds of things.

We're just kind of kind of keep it to the first and second team.

So that does cut out some possibilities for some other guys from making these lists and things of that nature.

So we're just doing first and second team.

And what we do is we sort them into three categories, Trev.

We got top tier.

So the guys that are that are obvious, they're getting all the preseason love,

you know, that kind of a deal.

And then the second tier would be breakout players,

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