I want to show you something, guys.

Just one thing.

A barefoot.

Oh.

Welcome back to a special edition of a combined law talk and libertarian podcast coming at you

from the Hoover Institution.

I'm your Law Talk guest host and Libertarian regular host, Tom Church, filling in for Troy Seneca.

You know, I took over Troy's hosting of Libertarian a few years ago. Now I'm doing this with

Law Talk for today. John and Richard, I think pretty soon I will go off and write my own biography

of an obscure president whom I really, really enjoy it.

That's great.

Well, I'm so excited to attend the combined law school of Epstein and you. I usually, of course,

talk to the Epstein part. That's Richard Epstein, the libertarian. Richards, the Peter and

Kirsten Bedford senior fellow here at the Hoover Institution. He's a Lawrence A. Tisch

Professor of Law at NYU and is a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago.

And John, I'm so excited to talk to you as well. John is, of course, a visiting fellow here at the Hoover Institution.

He's the Emanuel Heller Professor of Law at the University of California, Berkeley, and he's a former Deputy Assistant attorney general in the Bush administration.

And John, I won't date you all say it's the W Bush administration.

It's great to be here.

And I want to, for the listeners, I am rolling up the Jolly Roger pirate flag up the flagpole

now that Lawtuck has successfully expanded its pirate empire and taken over another podcast.

And Tom, we are reserving the biography on Zachary Taylor for you to write.

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