Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now, and you're listening to the Flying Free

podcast, a support resource for women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 57 of the Fine Free Podcast. Today we are going to have a it's

basically a case study testimony and our survivor that we're featuring is Debbie Seguin from Dallas and I've known

Debbie for over I think it's been over almost three years.

And she has been a very active member in the Fine Free Sisterhood Group.

And I've also actually, we've met each other in person in a couple of

actually was in one place it was in Texas right Debbie both times yeah two

conferences two different conferences in Texas but anyways she wanted with her permission I'm letting you

know that she is 57 years old she said and she made a really good point and said it's helpful to know

how old the speaker is so you know where they are in their lives and I just

just have so first of all welcome Debbie to the podcast.

Thank you. I'm very happy to be here.

And we are going to go through our 10 questions and she said she's

ready to go so let's just dive in okay? Okay so first of Debbie, how did you meet your husband and were there any red flags

before you married him?

So I met him at church in January 1986. I had no idea what a red flag even was back then. I was completely

naive about anything. So I can't say there was anything that really sticks out.

However, now that I'm more knowledgeable about

like a typical abuser characteristic.

I can see that getting married that August,

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