There was a friendly letter, there was no pressure, the way you had that built up, that call,

it was going to be the call from hell. It turned out to be a nothing call other than a lot of people

said I never knew you could be so nice. Yeah, there you go, guilty of niceness. Hey, can you

scroll up Lindsey Graham said something else? He's in Trump's corner and he's on the Senate

judiciary committee, which matters too if impeachment ever actually went that far. I think it was in

the middle screen there. Lindsey Graham continued right there. He said, well, bless my soul. Who would

like a nice lemonade? He said, the Ukrainian president did not feel threatened. He felt fine with

what happened. I've read it just like you have. You can make your own decision. If you're just

joining us, the transcript is out more or less a transcript of the phone call and we're reading it

over and Trump does bring up investigating Biden's son a number of times. It's a substantial part of

the call. I'm telling you what the fault line is clear to me. If you judge Trump and what he says

by the conventional standards of conventional presidents looks really bad. But if you accept the

he shoots off his mouth a lot and then nothing happens because as people say that's a bad idea,

sir. And then it never goes forward. Then it's just Trump being Trump. Well, I don't know about

the you brought this up last hour about the do mob movies paint paint to broadly for us dumb people

or is it more subtle than that or whatever. But we have been in negotiations with bosses and

stuff like that where we walk out of the room and I say to Joe did that guy did he just was he's

saying that if we don't do this, we're fired and you say yes, that's what he was saying. Or vice

versa. I don't pick up on it. Right. I'm not as good at the subtleties of these sorts of things.

I need them laid out very clearly for me. Now to cite David Drucker's citation of the Godfather

movies, the Robert DuVal character, what's his name? Tom doesn't matter. Tom. He was the the soft

pedal guy. He would go and say uncorrenelly is very, very interested in in the flower business. And

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