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The Counsel

Note from Elie: The Tape that Will Roil the Trump Trial

The Counsel

Some Spider, Inc.

Politics, News

4.6848 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Hey everyone, Ellie here wishing you a happy Friday.

0:35.2

Well, we are rolling towards the end of week two of trial testimony,

0:40.4

week three of the trial as a whole, if you count jury selection. And my overall assessment thus

0:45.4

far, as I've said on air, is that for the prosecutors, so far so good. We don't have some

0:51.6

sort of smoking gun. This is not a smoking gun case, but they're doing a

0:55.5

good job of building the foundation for this case, of explaining to the jury how catch and kill

1:01.2

works and what the negotiations were between the inquirer, Michael Cohen, and Trump. The big moment's

1:06.2

going to be when Michael Cohen takes a stand, and there will be a very important moment within that testimony,

1:12.0

which I'm going to talk about in today's piece.

1:14.6

As always, please, send me your thoughts, question, the comments I really do enjoy hearing

1:18.6

what you have to say. Send them in to Letters atcafe.com. During my career as a prosecutor, anytime I worked a case involving a large mafia

1:40.5

takedown, defense lawyers would sidle up to me throughout arraignment day and ask me this

1:45.9

one key question. So is it a tapes case? Now there's no insider lingo involved here. Tapes mean

1:52.7

tapes, as in do you have my guy on tape? When I'd answer, nope, I'd see eyebrows raise in a,

1:58.1

hmm, maybe there's hope for my guy yet, manner. But when I answered yes,

2:02.3

I typically get a quick nod communicating that the defense lawyer understood it would be all

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