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The Counsel

Note From Elie: Speech or Debate — Breaking New Constitutional Ground

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Note From Elie is part of the free weekly CAFE Brief newsletter. Audio recordings of Elie’s Note are part of the CAFE Insider subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy, happy Friday.

0:35.5

This is a very exciting week because on Wednesday, we released the first

0:39.9

episode of Up Against the Mob, season two, the Springfield crew. I cannot wait for you to hear this story.

0:47.3

It is the wildest mob story that I was ever part of. Search for Up Against the Mob and follow us in your listening app so you can get each episode

0:57.3

as it comes out in the coming weeks.

1:00.2

New episodes will drop every Wednesday.

1:03.1

In the meantime, here's this week's podcast.

1:10.3

Music Whatever you might think of Donald Trump, you have to hand him this.

1:24.4

He makes the most far-fetched law school hypotheticals come to life.

1:29.6

This time, Trump's actions on and around January 6th have given us this doozy.

1:35.0

Mike Pence, the former vice president, is seeking to quash a federal grand jury subpoena from

1:40.8

special counsel Jack Smith by invoking the Constitution's delightfully obscure speech or debate clause.

1:48.6

No prior vice president has ever made a comparable claim or perhaps even considered it,

1:54.0

yet Pence actually could be on to something here.

1:57.7

Today's featured constitutional provision certainly does need some introduction.

2:02.7

This speech or debate clause holds prime real estate on our seminal parchment right there in

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