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"Not The Same Person I Knew" - Wes Moore's BRUTAL Take On JD Vance's Transformation

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🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Wes Moore says in 2020 most Marylanders would have asked “Who is Wes Moore” and warns against early 2028 frontrunner talk, then contrasts JD Vance he once knew through their books with the version he sees now and says his goal is to never reintroduce himself.

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0:00.0

So here's the numbers. I know you can't say anything. Kamala Harris surges in the 2020 poll report came out. I think yesterday. I don't know if you see the, do they show everybody else underneath the list? Rob, do you have that or no? I know she came up yesterday and they had a list of them.

0:16.0

Here we go. Notably, no, there was something I saw on X that actually showed percentage where it was, and Kamala was at the top.

0:24.6

I'll say this. You don't need to say this.

0:27.6

There is nowhere where I see her ahead of you.

0:31.6

Nowhere. You've ran a state. You were in the military. You've been in the private sector.

0:36.6

Okay. Family guy, personal, you know,

0:40.7

faith. You, you understand what people in business go. You're willing to talk to anybody. You

0:47.6

don't think you're above everybody. You don't. So to me, you know, that's that part. Pritzker,

0:52.8

I don't think he's the guy because he has a lot of things to explain for, for Illinois. By the way, these are your friends. So I know, you know, Josh Shapiro, I'm a fan of Josh Shapiro. I actually like Josh Shapiro on the Democratic ticket. I think if Biden would have chosen him as a VP, I think it could have been a different result if they would have chosen it because this isn't about DEI. Like you're not a DEI hire, even though you're African American. It's not because you're African American. You became the governor. You're a governor because you kicked everyone's ass. So it's not like it's a DEI hire, which a lot of people would have said that Kamala Harris was a DIY hire. I'm saying it. You're not saying it. I'll take the heat for saying that. And then you go to Newsom with the record. So I don't know,

1:31.8

man. I really think you're the number one draft pick for me for 2028, the right marketing, the right

1:38.7

campaign, the right timing of the book being launched, podcast tour, going out there talking to a bunch of guys

1:44.4

like this on the podcast on the other end, people seeing how you handle yourself doing all that other stuff. But, you know, just the same way you went as a governor, where you were at barely 1% on the primary. And then all of a sudden, boom, then you get a call saying, wait a minute, this guy's the general, Obama's calling you, and then the rest of history. I'll say this.

2:02.6

One, and you're right, you know, those people... the general Obama's calling you and then the rest of history. I'll say this.

2:02.6

One, and you're right, you know, those people who you mentioned, they are friends.

2:07.9

Yeah.

2:08.3

And like, and sometimes people like, you know, oh, they're political friends.

2:11.2

Like, some of them are like legit.

2:13.8

Like sometimes when you're really wrestling with something, you know, being a governor sometimes

2:18.4

can be lonely. And there's not many people you can call up who when you have a conversation with

2:23.8

them, you don't always have to provide context. And some of those folks you mentioned are some of the

2:29.2

people who I will call up when I don't have time to provide context. And they'll just give me their

2:33.8

thoughts and their advice. And so some of them are just legit friends. The thing I will say, you're going to compete against a lot of these guys. Well, no. Well, the thing I'll say is this. If you ask people, because this is the equivalent of 2020, right? If you asked people in 2020, if you went toarylander in 2020 and say you know what your next

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