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Not-So-Simple Questions From Code Switch Listeners

Code Switch

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Society & Culture

4.614.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2017

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Gene and Shereen tackle some Code Switch listeners' questions about race and identity with a voice coach, a professor of children's literature, and two former interns who are now reporters: What's someone really asking when they say "What are you?" Where did the archetype of "The Magical Negro" come from? How has the meaning of "woke" evolved? And what does it mean to sound like an American in 2017? And many other questions in between the lines.

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0:00.0

What's good y'all this is Co-Twitch, I'm Jean Demby.

0:02.7

And I'm Shrine Marisol Maraji and this week we're doing an episode that's all about you.

0:07.5

Your questions, your curiosities, it was inspired by your tweets, emails and phone calls,

0:13.2

tweets like this one from listener Jacqueline Church.

0:16.2

Jacqueline Church says, can we have a conversation about woke as a term?

0:20.1

I understand how it's used and why, but if we're trying to engage and build continuous learning,

0:24.8

I think woke sounds like I'm done.

0:27.0

I stay woke, one, two, one, two, three, four.

0:32.1

Baby sleeping time to put her down now, I'll be standing round until the sun down.

0:39.8

That's Eric Abadu, the queen who is widely credited as having coined the term stay woke.

0:44.8

I'm body rolling in my chair right now.

0:46.8

Yes, queen.

0:49.4

And notice Abadu's not saying, I am woke.

0:52.5

She's saying I stay woke.

0:54.4

Important distinction.

0:55.5

To get at the distinction, we talked to Charles Pullion Moore.

0:58.0

He was one of our former interns.

0:59.5

Remember him?

1:00.2

I do.

1:00.8

He's now a reporter with fusion and last year he wrote a piece called How woke Went

1:05.3

from Black Activist Watchword to Teen Internets Lying.

1:08.8

When black people were initially saying like stay woke to one another, it was like a reminder,

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