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That's friendofdinesh.com. Coming up, I'll talk about how big pharma and big food have created

this scary system of paid influence and stringent social control to maximize their bottom line

while putting health and welfare by the wayside. I had an interesting exchange with psychologist

Jordan Peterson on the debt penalty. I'll talk about that. Authorly United's Johnson joins me.

We're going to talk about the destructive politics of CRT, critical race theory and victimhood.

And I'll ask whether Madonna has fully gone over to the dark side. This is the Dinesh Jussuz Show.

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We have a serious problem in this country. We've known this for a while, but we're beginning to be

more clear on what the problem is with big pharma. And not exclusively with big pharma. Big pharma

is also what I'm about to say about it could also be said just as well about say big food,

the giant corporations that manufactured the food that we eat. The point I want to make is

it's becoming increasingly clear that issues of health and welfare are secondary. I'm not saying

they don't matter at all. I'm saying that they are secondary for these giant corporations. And

what is primary is of course profit, the bottom line. Now in a capitalist system, we don't have any

problem with companies that make really good products, products that we need and want that make

our lives better that we pay for and the companies do well as a result. So we're not complaining about

that. We're complaining about the way in which these giant industries manipulate and rig and

control the system using the weapon of money, but also using the weapon of social leverage

and political control in order to shut down their critics in order to prevent debate on their

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