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Tides of History

North America After the Ice Age: Interview with Professor Shane Miller

Tides of History

Wondery / Patrick Wyman

Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.86.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Understanding the first migrants to the Americas more than 13,000 years ago is a big task. So is figuring out how the ancestors of indigenous peoples transformed themselves from hunters of mammoth and mastodon to farmers to the builders of complex societies. Professor Shane Miller, an archaeologist working in the American southeast (and a Tides listener!) joins me to talk about cutting-edge archaeology and how our understanding of the early Americas is changing.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everybody, from Wondery, welcome to another episode of Tides of History.

0:13.4

So there are a lot of things I love about making tides.

0:15.6

In fact, I am pretty sure that this is the best job in the world.

0:19.4

But my favorite thing is getting to meet and talk to all sorts of awesome people in the

0:23.4

course of doing that job.

0:25.5

Today's guest happens to be a tides listener, which is how we got started chatting, but

0:28.8

he is also a specialist on exactly some of the stuff we've been talking about over the

0:32.7

past few months.

0:34.2

Specifically, the post-I sage colonization of the Americas, the beginnings of agriculture

0:38.9

and complex societies in North America, and what we can learn about those things from archaeology.

0:44.0

I have shamelessly bothered him for references and recommendations about these topics to

0:48.0

inform my research for these episodes, for which I can't thank him enough.

0:52.0

He is an associate professor of anthropology at Mississippi State University and wrote a book

0:56.2

from colonization to domestication, population, environment, and the origins of agriculture

1:00.6

in Eastern North America, along with a whole bunch of journal articles.

1:04.3

Dr. Shane Miller, thank you so much for joining me today.

1:06.4

I'm happy to be here, man, a long time listener, first time caller.

1:13.0

So I've been picking your brain for months in private about a whole bunch of different topics

1:17.1

related to the prehistoric Americas.

1:19.1

I'm really stoked to get to do so on air today.

1:21.7

I want to start with the initial settlement of the Americas.

1:25.2

You have said to me in the past that you're skeptical about the evidence for people being

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