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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Norman Finkelstein Exposes Israel’s SECRET PLAN for Gaza

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to useful idiots.

0:06.4

I'm Katie Halper.

0:07.4

I'm Erin Matte.

0:08.4

Thanks so much for being here.

0:09.4

Our website is useful idiots podcast.com.

0:12.1

On this week's show, making his return is Norman Ficklstein a lot to talk about he will

0:17.6

weigh in and all the latest on the Gaza genocide, Israeli attacks on

0:22.3

the flotilla that's trying to break the siege of Gaza. This bid this week by some states to

0:28.8

recognize Palestinian statehood. Does it mean anything? Norman Ficklestin weighs in on all of that

0:35.1

and a lot more. Always a pleasure to talk to Norman.

0:38.0

So should we get started with our four basic food groups?

0:40.4

What do we got for Democrats suck, Aaron?

0:42.2

For Democrats suck, let's turn to how Democrats are talking about the genocide in Gaza.

0:48.2

You have a new book from Kamala Harris saying that she begged Joe Biden to be more

0:52.2

compassionate towards Palestinians, but he wouldn't listen,

0:56.0

not answer the question of why she didn't express more compassion for Palestinians,

1:00.3

including by calling for an arms embargo or doing anything, something, to show that she would

1:06.5

do things differently than Joe Biden, which she refused to do.

1:09.6

And now finally, because Democrats wouldn't distance themselves from Joe Biden's policy

1:15.4

of bear-hugging Israel, some people are finally coming out and saying, yeah, okay, now it's

1:19.3

time maybe to change course.

1:21.2

And here, for example, is the headline from a new op-ed in Politico.

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