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Hey guys, we are back on Normally, the show with Normalish takes for when the news gets weird.

And when I say we, I do not mean Carol Markowitz today.

The lovely Carol Markowitz is healing her voice, which she has lost a bit of.

And so we're going to let her rest up.

And I am in Colorado with my friend Kelly Maher.

Hi, Mary Catherine. Thanks for having me. I should probably give you a plug. Kelly Maher of restoring

standards. Yes. In the state of Colorado. She is an operative out here. She's my very good friend.

She's also just very entertaining and grows a great garden, which I've been visiting on her patio. It's true. Welcome, Kelly. Thank you so much for having me, Mary

Catherine. But of course. I'm traveling out here. Do I see one of our favorite artists? Yeah,

which is relevant to the news today. Robert O'Kine. Yes.

He's a Texas honky-tong guy.

Oh, he's one of our favorite.

We love him, cowboy poet.

We've seen him now live several times.

We've seen him in Virginia.

Yes.

We've seen him here in Colorado. Mm-hmm.

And we have on the list before he retires for the second time to go to Texas at some point

and see him together. Yes, we will work on that. We also, he was our last concert before the

pandemic. It was December 2019. And he was our only concert during the pandemic. Because as a good Texan, he was still touring and doing concerts.

We rebels went out in Northern Virginia where the rebel concert venue was holding an actual concert.

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