Normally Podcast: Immigration Wars, Free Speech Fights & 2028 Chess Moves

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the growing backlash over U.S. immigration policy, they explore how Europe is reacting to America’s political shifts, the intensifying battle over free speech, and increasing scrutiny of Trump’s border strategy.

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0:00.0	This is an I-Heart podcast.
0:02.6	Guaranteed Human.
0:09.2	Hey, guys.
0:10.0	We are back on normally, the show with normalish takes for when the news gets weird.
0:13.6	I am there, Kevin.
0:14.6	And I'm Carol Marcos.
0:16.1	How was your weekend, Mary Catherine?
0:18.0	Oh, my gosh, it was great.
0:19.2	My football team won, so I'm walking on air.
0:22.6	Yes, I saw that and thought of you for sure. And that would be Georgia. The Georgia Bulldogs,
0:27.9	yes. Your lions also beat the Cowboys, which was sad and disappointing. I don't watch as much NFL as I
0:33.1	used to because in a mom's life, you just have to choose a thing. You got to choose, yeah. And you've
0:38.2	chosen college football. I have. But I do, in theory, like NFL football as well. Yeah.
0:44.9	Well, the weekend was exciting. I started seeing tweets about Europeans being angry at Americans,
0:53.9	and I didn't know what was going on,
0:55.5	and I kind of enjoyed that.
0:57.0	It was like, we're done with you, America.
0:59.1	This is the last straw.
1:00.3	And I didn't know what they were talking about,
1:02.2	and it was a lot of fun not knowing.
1:03.8	That's actually just the Don Draper meme,
1:06.6	which is his underling at work says to him in the elevator,
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