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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Normally Podcast: Commencement Chaos, Free Speech Fights & the AI Debate on Campus

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

iHeartPodcasts

Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Daily News

4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

College commencement season is delivering more than graduation speeches—it’s igniting debates over free speech, campus culture, AI, and what advice actually matters in life. Karol Markowicz and Mary Katharine Ham break down the backlash over Jonathan Haidt’s NYU commencement address, reactions to AI warnings from former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, and the speech that may have gotten it right...

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:10.9

Hey guys.

0:11.8

We are back on Normally.

0:13.2

The show with Normalish takes for When the News gets weird.

0:15.6

I'm Mary Catherine Hume.

0:16.7

I'm Carol Markowitz.

0:18.2

You know, it's college commencement season because that's sort of a thing right now, again.

0:24.1

Well, and it's frequently, right?

0:26.7

Because the college students can't often handle having speakers come in that they haven't completely mind-melded with in every single opinion

0:39.4

they have on every single occasion. So the school body will rise up, at least in small,

0:45.8

loud numbers, not usually the majority, and insist that someone should not be the speaker.

0:52.1

That has happened surprisingly, ooh, shocker at NYU this year.

0:57.6

Yeah.

0:57.9

Well, they seem to be ground zero for that kind of bad idea.

1:01.4

But let me ask you before we get into this.

1:03.3

Who was your commencement speaker?

1:05.6

You know what?

1:06.4

I didn't actually go to my big commencement speech, and was a it was a prominent lawyer from Georgia

1:12.8

and now I can't remember exactly who hold on one second I'll find it for you well yeah okay um

1:19.5

I was not blown away and if that gives you a clue right well my whole thing is I have no idea

1:26.3

who my commencement speaker was yeah well okay the same boat my gosh. I just looked it up and it was Julian Bond. Oh, great. So mine was Larry Thompson, I believe. I'm not positive.

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