meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Normalcy Returns to Kyiv as Russia Doubles Down in Eastern Ukraine

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Politics, Washington, News, Obama, Wnyc, President, Lizza, Barack, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine grinds on into its third brutal month, with no end in sight. But, in ways large and small, the conflict has shifted. At the start of the war, the Russian military hoped to seize Kyiv and decapitate the Ukrainian government—but then quickly retreated in the face of sustained resistance. The fiercest fighting is now in the eastern Donbas region, but Russian troops have also occupied the southern Ukrainian city of Melitopol since February, upending civilian life in other ways. The New Yorker contributing writer Joshua Yaffa, formerly the magazine’s Moscow correspondent, has been reporting from Ukraine throughout the war. He spoke to the guest host Susan Glasser from Kyiv about the state of the conflict. “This is a war against the totality of a country, against the totality of a people, and, even if there is a moment of relative peace in the capital, that doesn’t mean that Russia’s aims have in any way narrowed in their ambition, narrowed in their scope,” Yaffa says. “And if Russia is able to cleave off the Donbas, as seems to be its major or central military goal at the moment, that doesn’t mean the war ends there.”

Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hi there, I'm Lale Arikoglu, and this podcast is brought to you by Wilderness, a conservation-driven

0:06.4

hospitality company that offers intimate world life encounters in extraordinary remote landscapes.

0:12.5

Last year, I embarked on two separate solo adventures with Wilderness, one to Botswana and the other

0:18.2

to Namibia, where the expert guides delivered a truly once-in-a-lifetime

0:23.6

experience. I promise you, whatever you watch and see before you go won't prepare you for the thrill

0:29.4

of a wilderness adventure. eBay, it's a place to fall in love with new pre-loved vintage and rare

0:36.6

fashion over and over again.

0:39.0

Your favorite designers, expertly authenticated.

0:42.5

Yeah, eBay. Things people love.

0:48.7

Welcome to the political scene. I'm Susan Glasser.

0:52.4

Russia's invasion of Ukraine grinds on. The war is now in its third

0:56.6

brutal month as of this week with no end in sight. But in ways large and small, the conflict

1:01.7

has shifted. At the start of the war, the Russian military hoped to seize Kyiv and decapitate

1:07.8

the Ukrainian government, but then quickly retreated in the face of sustained

1:11.6

resistance.

1:12.6

The fiercest fighting now is in the eastern Donbass region, where cities have been and are

1:17.6

continuing to be reduced to rubble.

1:19.6

It now seems likely that the war will descend into a stalemate, a brutal war of attrition,

1:25.6

as the U.S. National Intelligence Director recently put it,

1:29.2

and that the death toll, already in the tens of thousands, will continue to climb.

1:34.6

For some valuable perspective from the ground, we're joined today by my colleague Josh Jaffa,

1:39.8

who for a long time has been the New Yorker's Moscow correspondent. Throughout the war,

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The New Yorker, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The New Yorker and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.