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So Trump is kind of moving like a bull in a China shop.

Or rather, a bull in a missile shop, you know.

I think that's a more apt analogy.

The system of government wasn't exactly benign beforehand, you know?

Yeah.

I think it really needs to click for people that Trump is not truly exceptional.

Mm-hmm.

Rather, he's a product of the normal that people seem to be yearning for yeah you know and

the other issues we're dealing with too yeah i think like this is the uh the crux of what comes

next right it's like uh we have this like um i don't like, I don't want to disparage people. We have this

tendency in American politics, this liberal tendency, progressive liberal tendency even, to think

that, like, basically things have been magnificent until the first week of November in 2016,

right, that America was progressing on this, like, linear

pathway towards total equality and justice for all. And that what's happening now is an aberration.

It's the idea that there's a few individuals conspiring, rather that there is a system which

inherently creates interest, which repose to our own, I guess. Yeah, exactly.

It's like all of these, these problems, the genocide were waging long before Trump came into

power, you know, the economic strains, people are feeling today that people have been

feeling for decades, for their entire lives, you know, the climate crisis that

is when we worsen this time has gone on. You know, all of this is a product of that normal,

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