Nord Stream leaks: Sabotage?
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 28 September 2022
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
The EU believes leaks in the two Nord Stream two gas pipelines from Russia were caused deliberately. Patricia Lewis, who specialises in International Security, gives Lucy and Irena her take on the situation and explains how Europe might respond.
Moscow says four occupied areas of Ukraine have voted overwhelmingly in favour of becoming part of Russia. Ukraine and its allies have denounced the referendums as a total sham, but could people living there now be told to fight in the Russian army against Ukrainians?
Also, we hear from a warehouse worker in St Petersburg who says he can’t afford to leave Russia and would rather go to prison than be sent to fight in Ukraine.
And Olga Sekliy, a paramedic in Kharkiv, describes the shocking injuries she’s seen while rescuing people injured in the shelling.
The series producer is Estelle Doyle. The producers are Ivana Davidovic and Arsenii Sokolov. The planning producer, Louise Hidalgo. The technical producers, Emma Crowe and Neil Churchill. The assistant editor is Alison Gee. The editor is Jonathan Aspinwall.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.8 | Hello, it's 217 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine and the mystery of what |
| 0:10.6 | happened to two Nord Stream gas pipelines is really preoccupying our listeners right around |
| 0:15.7 | the world. |
| 0:16.9 | Was it sabotage, at least the European Union and Putin agree on that? |
| 0:21.7 | The Danes have been speaking to the BBC today and we actually saw some footage from the Danish |
| 0:26.3 | military they released. |
| 0:27.8 | You could see the sea around the leak just bubbling away. |
| 0:31.8 | I spoke to the Foreign Minister earlier, he told me that the leak was caused by a deliberate |
| 0:36.5 | act and a big investigation is now underway. |
| 0:39.7 | The Defence Minister has also been speaking, he said the damage is just having a huge effect |
| 0:43.8 | on these pipelines. |
| 0:45.3 | It is not a coincidence, it was planned, well planned and the effect as you can see at the |
| 0:51.7 | pictures that has been published is huge. |
| 0:55.6 | It's too early to say, who was behind it, I think we'll look in today's before we actually |
| 1:01.4 | can get a clear view of what have actually happened. |
| 1:05.6 | But was Russia responsible, that's the view expressed in Ukraine, but the Kremlin said that |
| 1:11.0 | claims that Russia was behind the attack on the gas pipelines were predictably stupid. |
| 1:16.7 | Yeah, no surprise there with that response. |
| 1:19.5 | No surprise either that Russia has also claimed to have convincingly won, although so-called |
| 1:24.6 | referendum in the occupied areas. |
| 1:28.0 | This is Ukraine's gas. |
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