We're basically still in beta right now and starting to open it up to the world in Q1 next year.

So I mean, 200 customers at five bucks a pop.

I mean, you're doing something like a thousand bucks a month right now in revenue?

More than that because we also have the $20 a month tier.

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interviews. Check it out right now at gitlatka.com. Hey folks. My guest today is Nick Gerard. He's a lifelong

creator and builder as well as a former Microsoft software engineer in PM. He holds degrees in music, computer science and electrical engineering from the University of Michigan, where he also launched his first startup while still a student. Before founding his current company, Norby, he consulted for numerous early stage companies and helped launch a viral online community at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Again, now building Norby.Live, a marketing platform for creators. Nick, you ready to take us

at the top? Yeah, thanks for having me. You bet. Okay, so you sound like a triple threat. You have

empathy from music. You can code from computer science. You're in the weeds because you ran an agency

launched side projects. So Norby's going to be big, huh?

That's the idea.

The first startup I ever started actually was a music startup.

That was the one I did in college.

And we built it for DJs and it was about collaborating, like building collaborative

playlists and playing music together in real time.

And the goal for me has always been

to figure out a way to marry those two things, to figure out a way to build products and

services for people in creative worlds. And that's really carried me through most of my 20s.

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