Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Laura Owens, and I'm Jan Black. And our guest on this episode is writer

Nora McInerney, and she is the perfect guest for these unsettled times

we're living in. Nora has been through a lot in her life and she's managed to speak and write

about the good times, the bad times, and the uncertain times with wisdom, humor, and heart.

When she was only 31, Nora lost her second baby, her father, and her husband over the course of

six weeks.

She's the author of the book's No Happy Endings and It's Okay to Laugh.

And she's the host of the award-winning podcast, Terrible. Thanks for asking.

And she's also the author of the new novel, Bad Moms.

Nora, thank you so much for joining us.

Oh, thanks for having me here in my home, speaking to you in your home.

What a delightful time.

Everything.

We have so many questions for you.

But the first one is you have dealt with so much upheaval and uncertainty in your life.

And I'm wondering what messages you would have for people who are feeling very unsettled

and shaken and uncertain about the future right now because you've been through so much.

The first thing I say is welcome to the club.

Everybody joins eventually.

So if you are here for the first

time, there's room for you, unfortunately. We saved a seat. We saved you a seat. We scooched over. We made room.

And if you are here again for the second, the third, the fourth time. Yeah, it's just as bad as you remember.

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