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learn more at cerealbox.com s e r i a albbox dot com i am so thrilled to be interviewing nora mackinernie

who is the author of two memoirs.

It's okay to laugh.

Crying is cool, too, and no happy endings.

She's the founder of the nonprofit still kick-in in memory of her husband Aaron, who passed away from brain cancer at age 35.

She also founded the Hot Young Widows Club.

Graduate of Xavier University, Nora has contributed to many publications, including L. Cosmopolitan,

Vox, and Time Magazine. She's also the host of the podcast, Terrible. Thanks for asking.

She currently lives in Minneapolis with her husband and children. Hi, Nora, how are you?

Hi, how's it going? Thanks for coming on moms, don't have time to read books. Hey, no problem.

You can hear me okay? Yes. It's not too noisy in here? No, it's great. Can you hear me okay? I can. It's wonderful. Excellent. Well, I'm so honored that you agreed to come on moms don't have time to read books because I'm really such a huge fan of you and you're writing and still kick in and basically everything that you're doing. So thank you for taking the time.

Thank you. It's super fun. I'm glad we finally get to talk and thank you for being so flexible.

Of course. Of course. We're getting snowed in every other day here. So my kids basically have not had a full week of school since winter break. Oh my gosh.

Either there's like a random day off, there's a teacher in service, or it was a snow day

like yesterday.

Oh, yeah, they keep that.

I think that we've been scheduled this for yesterday or it would have been like me, like,

yelling the whole time.

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