Nora Bateson: "Complexity Between The Lines"
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
4.8 • 555 Ratings
🗓️ 16 March 2022
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
On this episode, we meet with award-winning filmmaker, writer, educator, and President of the International Bateson Institute, Nora Bateson.
Nora brings us beyond the descriptions of the physical science that underpins our predicament to the nuance and perception of the complexity that we live within. How can we improve our relationships with others, as well as the broader world?
Nora helps us understand how systems dynamics inform our predicament. How does an ecosystem develop and mature through mutual learning? What are ways we can apply this thinking to our profit-focused superstructure?
About Nora Bateson
Nora Bateson is an award-winning filmmaker, writer and educator, as well as President of the International Bateson Institute, based in Sweden. Her work asks the question "How can we improve our perception of the complexity we live within, so we may improve our interaction with the world?"
An international lecturer, researcher and writer, Nora wrote, directed and produced the award-winning documentary, An Ecology of Mind, a portrait of her father, Gregory Bateson. Her work brings the fields of biology, cognition, art, anthropology, psychology, and information technology together into a study of the patterns in ecology of living systems. Her book, Small Arcs of Larger Circles, released by Triarchy Press, UK, 2016 is a revolutionary personal approach to the study of systems and complexity.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins. |
| 0:06.0 | That's me. |
| 0:07.8 | On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, |
| 0:14.3 | the environment, and our society. |
| 0:17.6 | Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's-eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it as a society and as individuals. |
| 0:33.0 | Today's guest is Nora Bateson. |
| 0:35.9 | Nora is an award-winning filmmaker, writer, and educator, and is the president of the |
| 0:41.5 | International Bateson Institute based in Sweden. |
| 0:45.5 | The followers of this podcast know I am keenly interested in systems and how we can understand |
| 0:50.8 | the human ecosystem. |
| 0:53.3 | Nora's work goes beyond the physical descriptions of the science underpinning our predicament |
| 0:59.0 | to the nuance and perception of the complexity that we live within so that in addition to |
| 1:06.0 | knowing facts, we can improve our interaction with others and with the world. |
| 1:11.3 | I hope you enjoy my conversation with my friend and colleague Nora Bateson. |
| 1:38.3 | Let's start with the importance of systems, thinking in systems, seeing the world in systems. What does it mean to see things through a systems and complexity lens in order to understand how the parts integrate and shape |
| 1:46.5 | how things work? |
| 1:48.3 | I just love that we're starting here. |
| 1:50.8 | This is good because it's really far too easy to throw around the vocabulary of things |
| 1:57.6 | like systems or complexity. |
| 2:01.2 | And in fact, those words are used too frequently |
| 2:05.2 | in ways that don't really get to what I think they mean to me. |
| 2:13.6 | I'll just say that. |
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