Nonzero and The End of History (Robert Wright & Francis Fukuyama)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

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🗓️ 13 June 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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00:54 Frank’s book The End of History and the Last Man 10:35 Bob’s book Nonzero: The Logic of Human Destiny 17:14 Do people have to be rational in order to cooperate? 24:07 Are AI and other technologies advancing too rapidly for society to adapt? 37:21 Frank’s take on Hegel 48:05 Why Frank’s a Russia hawk and Bob's a Russia dove 58:12 Will authoritarian regimes do a better job of dealing with advanced information technologies?

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Francis Fukuyama (Stanford University, The End of History and the Last Man, Liberalism and Its Discontents). Recorded May 23, 2023.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:33.8	Hi, Frank.
0:35.2	Hey, Bob.
0:36.4	How you doing?
0:37.5	I'm okay. How are you? Cannot complain. Let me introduce this. Hey, Bob. How are you doing? I'm okay. How are you?
0:39.4	Cannot complain. Let me introduce us. I'm Robert Wright, publisher in Non-Zero Newsletter.
0:43.5	This is a non-zero podcast. You're Francis Fukuyama.
0:46.7	Very well-known political scientist. You're at Stanford University.
0:51.6	Author of a number of well-known books, probably none better known than the end of
0:58.2	history and the last man, which we're going to talk about, but also a book called trust,
1:03.2	a book on the origins of political order, book on the decline of political order called
1:08.0	political order and political decay, and other things you've been
1:12.4	busy these are big books uh big in the conceptual sense and also some of them are are physically
1:18.2	large especially these these recent ones um so listen frank i have to admit that i i set this conversation up in a slightly self-indulgent
1:29.3	spirit. One thing you and I have in common is that we've both written big think books about
1:35.8	history and its direction. Yours is the end of history and the last man, mine non-zero,
1:42.0	the logic of human destiny, which came out at the turn of the millennium um
1:47.8	both of us some one of my one of my favorite books by the way oh i'll bet you say that to all the
1:52.6	podcast so you know you did actually uh you reviewed it favorably for the wilson quarterly i don't
1:57.8	know if you remember but that was very kind of you. Yeah.
2:03.3	Well, thank you.
2:03.9	So is yours.
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