Non-Monogamous Love with Justin L. Clardy
Overthink
Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.
4.7 • 549 Ratings
🗓️ 5 December 2023
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Let a thousand flowers bloom! In episode 92 of Overthink, Ellie and David have a panoramic conversation on love beyond monogamy with philosophy professor, podcaster, and author of Why It's OK To Not be Monogamous, Justin L. Clardy. They envision relations of love and special attachment that aren't bound to the notion of sacrifice. They also turn to personal stories and question the role of marriage in consumer capitalism and its nonstop pressure to find the One and Only. Together, they find in non-monogamous pathways to reimagine agency, identity, and community — and a nudge toward a richer philosophy of our relations with the world around us.
Note: Ellie misspeaks when she mentions that married couples have lower satisfaction levels than unmarried ones. The correct claim, based on this study, is that they have fewer social ties. We apologize for the mistake!
Check out the episode's extended cut here!
Works Discussed
Marina Adshade, "The Origins of the Institutions of Marriage"
Simone de Beauvoir, She Came to Stay
Elizabeth Brake, Minimizing Marriage
Justin Clardy, Why It’s OK to Not Be Monogamous
Carrie Jenkins, What Love Is
Robert Nozick, "Love's Bond"
Pages The Reading Group
Related Overthink episodes
15. Marriage
16. Monogamy
17. Open Relationships
18. Polyamory
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Overthink. |
| 0:14.7 | The podcast where two friends who are in non-monogamous relationships talk about all sorts of personal and philosophical things. |
| 0:22.8 | I'm Dr. Ellie Anderson. |
| 0:24.5 | And I'm Dr. David Pena-Gusman. |
| 0:26.7 | And David, the truth is we have limited recording time for this intro to the interview because we just came from a two-hour merch meeting. |
| 0:35.9 | We are finalizing our Overthink merch, which people have |
| 0:38.6 | been asking us to do for a while. No big deal. And we have finally had the resources to pay some |
| 0:45.4 | students to help us, our wonderful students, Erin and Emilio, who you might have heard us mention |
| 0:49.4 | on the podcast. Yeah. And so we have amazing merch that's going to be coming out. Look out for that in social media. |
| 0:55.4 | No, David, by the time this episode comes out, the merch will be out. This is why I'm mentioning it. |
| 1:00.6 | Yeah. The temporality of podcasting is bizarre. It's like a topsy-turvy world where like future is past and past its future. So let me rephrase in the future when you're listening to this, our merch is already |
| 1:12.2 | available. |
| 1:12.8 | So go and check it out. |
| 1:13.7 | Yeah. |
| 1:14.2 | And I think it's shop. |
| 1:15.6 | Dot overthinkpodcast.com. |
| 1:19.8 | We'll make it available online somewhere. |
| 1:22.4 | We promise. |
| 1:23.6 | Yes. |
| 1:24.1 | No, you can also, you can check out our Overthink merch online. We've got like fun little hats that say, you know, philosophical slogans, et cetera. At risk of this sounding like an advertisement, however. So if you want to buy our merch, please buy your merch. It's really fun. I'm loving it. I'm super excited about it. But you can also listen to this episode and it is not an advertisement for our merch. I promise. David, non-monogamous relationships. |
| 1:44.9 | Non-monogamous relationships, which, by the way, we do have some merge that make reference |
| 1:48.7 | to polyamory. |
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