All right, guys, welcome to today's show. And joining me on the show today is Zach Ho Heisel. Now,

Zach is from my home state of Wisconsin. He actually joined me on the podcast a couple years ago.

And we've communicated here and there, but he had a killer season last year. And I can't wait to hear more about it.

I don't have all the information yet. but I'm excited to jump in because he connected

with a couple amazing deer. So we're going to talk all about deer hunting and food plots and

family farms, but also about dogs because when he was on the show last, I hadn't gotten a

hunting dog yet. Now that I've got one, I want to kind of pick his brain on a couple things because

he is all about using dogs for waterfowl and pheasant and shed hunting, you name it.

So it's a great episode. Let's jump in with Zach.

Like he was doing things that were just badass.

That was one of the coolest moments of my life.

I was really scared.

But knowing that Dean had the gun, I did have the rifle.

Like, we would be okay.

All right, guys.

Welcome to today's show.

And on with me is Zach Ho Heisel.

Dude, Zach, I think we were just talking about this. I think you are, you have the widest span of like your first to your second appearance on the show.

You said you were on episode 40?

Episode 40. Yeah, that was, I can't even remember how many years ago now,

but I remember we were talking about a buck I was hoping to get back after Dagger.

And that's been, I still think about that buck for just about daily.

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