I live on one of those families now where anything that I say could show up in a podcast.

Hello.

Hello, bro.

Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you as well.

As some listeners may know, my producer here, Max Williams and myself are Flesh and Blood

brothers.

We go to the same home for Christmas.

We do.

We are there now.

Yes, recording in a spare bedroom.

So, yeah, we're just doing something a little different today, something a little fun.

There's a moment in a recent episode that we did, the episode about Romeo Mueller and his Rankin' Bass specials and so many Christmas specials of the years, and his last one, the last one that was produced in his lifetime, his last script, was a movie called Noelle.

We have Rick Goldschman talk about it for a second, and I mentioned in brief passing that it was my personal childhood favorite.

But I didn't feel like I did justice to just how fascinating I think that film is.

We watched it probably every year, at least while we were children.

And like a lot of our things in our childhood, you know, being a year and a half apart, I guess we were shared in that occasion.

So I've watched Noel, I feel like a bunch of times,

but I don't really remember the movie myself that well at all.

Yeah, well, I mean, you know,

it's about a little Christmas ornament

who has very special conditions when he's being created.

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