Noel Hunter and Brett Francis - Diagnosis, Empowerment and Equality
Mad in America: Rethinking Mental Health
Mad in America
4.7 • 212 Ratings
🗓️ 25 November 2017
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
This week on MIA Radio, we share the time between two interviewees; clinical psychologist Dr. Noel Hunter and entrepreneur and author Brett Francis. Dr. Noel Hunter is a clinical psychologist in New York and an advocate for the rights of people diagnosed with mental disorders. She believes in a trauma-informed, humanistic, person-centred approach to understanding problems in living. She has trained in community mental health, state hospital, residential, and college counselling settings. Dr. Hunter is on the board of directors for the Hearing Voices Network – USA, the International Society for Ethical Psychiatry & Psychology, and the National Association for Rights Protection and Advocacy. She is an Associate Editor for the peer-reviewed journal Ethical Human Psychology & Psychiatry and has been a guest editor for Asylum Magazine. Brett Francis is a professional speaker, mental health advocate, author and entrepreneur. Brett was herself diagnosed with Tourette's Syndrome and ADHD at 6 years of age, leading to being medicated for over eleven years and subsequent difficulties with anxiety, depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder. She is now passionate about supporting and encouraging open and honest discussions about mental health and disabilities and giving confidence to those struggling. In the episode we discuss: Dr Noel Hunter How Dr. Hunter came to be involved with the mental healthcare system. That Noel found that if she did reach out and discuss her experiences, she felt punished or accused of 'seeking attention'. That these experiences made Noel want to fight back and become a therapist and advocate who took a different approach. That Noel feels that building trust within the therapeutic relationship is a fundamental part of a therapists job. That it is healthy to be sceptical of the mainstream system and for people to be afraid of getting help because of the potential of being re-traumatised by treatment. That the medical model ultimately leads to avoidance and harm. Whether there can ever be equality in the therapeutic relationship. Brett Francis How Brett came to be diagnosed and medicated at a very early age. Her experiences taking the antipsychotic drug Haloperidol, and that she felt it disrupted her schooling. How Brett decided not to be limited by her diagnoses but instead focussed on tackling the stigma and misinformation prevalent in mental healthcare. That we should support and encourage people to talk about their struggles and we should do that through education. That creating communities and social connections can be enormously helpful in responding to emotional or psychological distress. To get in touch with us email: podcasts@madinamerica.com © Mad in America 2017
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Mad in America podcast, your source for science, psychiatry and social justice. |
| 0:13.7 | Hello, this is James, and welcome to episode 23 of the Madden America podcast. |
| 0:18.8 | This week, we share the time between two interviewees. A little later, |
| 0:23.1 | I'll be talking with entrepreneur and author Brett Francis about her work. But first, I'm honored |
| 0:28.6 | to have been able to interview Dr. Noel Hunter. Dr. Hunter is a clinical psychologist in New York |
| 0:34.8 | and an advocate for the rights of people diagnosed with mental disorders. |
| 0:39.2 | She believes in a trauma-informed, humanistic, person-centered approach to understanding problems in living. |
| 0:45.5 | She has trained in community mental health, state hospital, residential and college counselling settings. |
| 0:51.3 | Dr. Hunter is on the board of directors for the Hearing Voices Network |
| 0:54.7 | USA, the International Society for Ethical Psychiatry and Psychology, and the National |
| 0:59.9 | Association for Rights Protection and Advocacy. She is an associate editor for the peer-reviewed |
| 1:05.1 | journal Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry and has been a guest editor for Asylum magazine. |
| 1:12.8 | Noel, thank you so much for talking with me today for the Mad in America podcast. I wanted to start by asking about you and your |
| 1:18.2 | background and what led you to becoming a clinical psychologist and therapist. Well, first of all, |
| 1:23.1 | hi. It's nice to be here. What was my journey coming to be a therapist and a, well, I always had an |
| 1:29.9 | ambivalent relationship, I think, with the mental health field, even when I was a kid. I think it's |
| 1:35.1 | always been a part of my life due to various family members who were kind of wrapped up in it and seeing |
| 1:43.1 | how a lot of abuse and a lot of oppression and |
| 1:48.6 | trauma was being absolutely ignored by mental health professionals while at the same time |
| 1:56.5 | people were being put on heavy loads of medications and told that it really was their problem |
| 2:04.0 | and it was in their head. |
| 2:05.1 | And I remember being as young as 11 or 12 and thinking, well, this doesn't seem right. |
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