We are playing with fire.

No one, neither Ukraine nor Russia, would benefit from a nuclear accident in that part of the world.

Hello and welcome to the GZero World podcast.

This is where you'll find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

I'm Ian Bremmer, and on today's episode, we're

keeping things light by asking how real is the threat of nuclear Armageddon? As Vladimir

Putin's battle losses in Ukraine mount, his nuclear saber-rattling has gotten louder. Meanwhile,

the Iran nuclear deal shows no signs of life at all, unlike the country's

nuclear program, which experts believe is weeks away from developing a viable weapon.

And don't sleep on North Korea. Not that you were going to. Because they have signaled plans

to significantly increase their nuclear arsenal in the year to come.

So how do we get through 2023 alive?

And on the bright side, what's going on with nuclear fusion?

Hey, there's got to be something positive.

That's what I'm asking Raphael Grossi.

He's the Director General of the Nuclear Weapons Watchdog Group, the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Let's get to it.

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