Hello listeners this is Politico's nerd cast I'm Scott Land this week on the show the White House seems to take a new approach to the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

The approach involves a lot of Rudy Giuliani on cable news, apparently.

We will talk all about that. Plus we've got an exciting

week next week ahead of the 2018 midterms we will preview primary voting happening

in four states around the country. A reminder to our listeners, please subscribe to the

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show for a contribution from one of the Nurdcast biggest fans. One more note

before we begin we are taping this a little bit before noon eastern on Thursday,

May 3rd, so it's all up to date as of then.

Hopefully the aforementioned Rudy Giuliani is not appearing on cable news at all the rest of the day.

But he probably is.

Okay, let's get started.

I want to welcome our guests.

We have on the phone Darren Samuelson, senior reporter for Politico, who is on deadline and has agreed to join us.

Thank you so much for taking the time.

Sure thing, happy to be on.

And in the studio we've got White House reporter Nancy Cook. Thank you for being here.

Oh, thanks for having me.

And senior politics editor, Charlie Matessian,

always good to see you.

Hi Scott.

All right, time for our first data point.

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