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"Nobody Should Believe Me" — When the Advocate Is the Abuser

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week on PRETEND, we’re bringing you something special: a feed drop from Nobody Should Believe Me, an award-winning investigative true crime podcast created by author Andrea Dunlop. With over 15 million downloads and a spot on The New York Times' radar as “a rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition,” this show dives deep into one of the most disturbing forms of abuse—Munchausen by Proxy. Told through the voices of survivors and leading experts, Nobody Should Believe Me pulls back the curtain on cases that are as heartbreaking as they are eye-opening. Season Six unpacks the devastating saga of the McDaniel family—a true Southern Gothic story of generational trauma and medical child abuse that has haunted those involved for decades. And here’s some exciting news: PRETEND is now part of Andrea Dunlop’s new true crime podcast network, True Story Media. We're proud to be joining forces with storytellers who aren’t afraid to dig into the darkest corners of human behavior. Listen to Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me now: 🎧 https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OBmfOH5umqm6AHKtBNprg?si=963e00595cd740c0 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media.

0:07.3

Hey guys, today I have a special episode, a special announcement that I'm going to make.

0:11.7

You'll hear it shortly, but I wanted to let you know that I am working on some breaking news,

0:17.1

two new LaDonna Humphrey episodes. It is breaking news, so I'm putting it together as we speak.

0:22.6

So have patience. Of course, my Patreon and Pretent Plus supporters on Apple Podcasts will be the

0:27.8

first ones to hear it. As soon as I finish it, I'll publish it. But for the rest of us,

0:32.8

hang tight because on Tuesday, you will have the first part, Part 17, of Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey.

0:39.9

We're going to be discussing some pretty major breaking news in regards to her case with her former employer, Anthony Christopher.

0:47.1

All right. Well, without further ado, let's play today's episode.

0:53.4

Hey, guys, this is me, Javier.

0:54.9

I have an important announcement to make a big deal, I think, in my book,

1:00.5

Pretend is joining a new network called True Story Media with my favorite indie podcaster,

1:08.4

Andrea Dunlop with the podcast, nobody should believe me.

1:11.7

Andrea, tell everybody about this partnership and how we got to teaming up.

1:18.2

Oh my gosh.

1:19.0

Well, first of all, thank you for saying that I'm your favorite indie podcaster.

1:22.5

That is a high praise coming from you.

1:24.4

I am so excited to have you on board with True Story Media, which is my new

1:30.2

burgeoning podcast network. We are dedicated specifically to ethically made true crime content. So we are

1:38.1

really trying to carve out a space in this industry and in this genre for, you know, for shows like yours, for shows like pretend

1:46.8

that are, you know, made with journalistic integrity, that are, you know, that are putting

1:52.7

something helpful and useful out into the world and obviously keeping us entertained and locked

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